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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:12 am    Post subject: Plumeria Reply with quote

Plumerias (Frangipani) also known as the Lei flower, is native to warm tropical areas of the Pacific Islands, Caribbean, South America and Mexico. Plumerias can grow to be large shrubs or even small trees in mild areas of the U.S. In tropical regions, Plumeria may reach a height of 30' to 40' and half as wide. They have widely spaced thick succulent branches, round or pointed, long leather, fleshy leaves in clusters near the branch tips. Sensitive to cold, leaves tend to fall in early winter since they are deciduous. In colder climates they should be grown in containers. They make beautiful potted plants for the patio or greenhouse. In milder climates, plumeria can be grown outdoors in the ground, where they may be a small beautiful landscape trees. When temperatures dip into the low 40's they may be stored in their containers or uprooted carefully trying to take as much root as possible and stored over winter in a heated basement or garage where temperatures are kept above freezing. As soon as temperatures rise outdoors they can be brought out and planted again. They will resume growth, leaf out and begin to grow as if nothing happened. The real payoff comes during the early summer through the early fall months, when very fragrant clusters of showy, waxy flowers provide the makings for your own Hawaiian Lei. There is absolutely nothing like the sweet fragrance of Plumeria in flower, with fragrances of jasmine, citrus, spices, gardenia, and other indescribable scents. These flowers are treasured by the Polynesian Islanders for their durability, fragrances and colors of whites, yellows, pinks, reds, and multiple pastels. Flowering can last up to 3 months at a time producing new blooms everyday. Once picked, a bloom can last for several days without wilting if kept in water.
Planting
For container planting use a coarse, well draining potting soil, such as cactus mix or potting mix with perlite and sand. Start with a 6" to 10" container or you may consider using a large container on a plant dolly once the plant is large enough to be in a larger pot to help make the job easier moving indoors as winter approaches. Insert the cut end down in to you potting mix 2" firm soil around cutting and water thoroughly.
Watering
Water Plumerias deeply, but infrequently, let soil dry out somewhat before watering again. "Plumerias do not like we feet". Begin to reduce the frequency of watering in mid-October, as the cool season approaches. Stop watering after all the leaves have fallen and has gone dormant. Resume watering in the spring as new growth begins.
Feeding
Plumerias should be fed with a high nitrogen fertilizer beginning in spring when growth begins. To encourage the most blooms a switch to a high phosphorous fertilizer in early May and fertilize every 2 to 3 weeks through the end of August.



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:26 am    Post subject: Re: Plumeria Reply with quote

Hi, Tarzan,

Thanks for that summary.

I have six ones, one-two years old, they are without leaves now, but the tops are alive. Since they receive a looot of sun, I hope one might decide to bloom this summer. They have been grown from seeds.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Plumeria Reply with quote

Hi Nina,
I have one plumeria grown from seed Razz .. She is little unstable so I put a stick to hold her. Is this normal ?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:27 am    Post subject: Re: Plumeria Reply with quote

nina wrote:
Hi, Tarzan,

Thanks for that summary.

I have six ones, one-two years old, they are without leaves now, but the tops are alive. Since they receive a looot of sun, I hope one might decide to bloom this summer. They have been grown from seeds.

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I also have a few grown from seed since 1998. The seeds were taken from a wild tree growing on an island caled Isla De Los Pajaros (Island of the birds) at Mazatlan, Sinaloa, Mexico. I remember wondering what it was and later when I gave a lecture to my local society I confessed that I did not know the name of this tree. To my amazement a few said that it was a Plumeria. So now I had the name and later I searched more and found that it is probably P. acuminata. Here is a picture growing on that island.



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:55 am    Post subject: Re: Plumeria Reply with quote

Hi, Marcus,

I do not have a lot of experience with plumies. Have only six ones. But, all have very strong stems.

Maybe yours needs more sunlight.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:56 am    Post subject: Re: Plumeria Reply with quote

Hi, Amante,

Have your plumies grown from seed bloomed yet??

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: Plumeria Reply with quote

Hi Nina,
No it has not bloomed yet but actually it was really in 2003 that I visited that Island mentioned above. It was a mistake I made because in 1998 I was near the island and took some pictures and mixed up the dates. So my plants are almost four years old and to tell you the truth I am not giving them the attention they merit.

Should do perhaps, when they start showing leaves again.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Plumeria Reply with quote

Hi, Amante,

Hm, three years, and not bloomed yet...So my hope is a vain one, I suppose. But again, who knows? Plumies from seeds are completely new plants, so, maybe.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:02 am    Post subject: Re: Plumeria Reply with quote

Hi everybody, I am not an export on plumies, but I have 10 growing from seeds. I’ve heard from people seedlings will not bloom for 4 years, so first year I cut 5 of them, because they were thin and unstable. They stared to produce branches. I do not know if I did right, but I just did not like I tall, thin stick.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Plumeria Reply with quote

Um... would anyone with a few extra Plumeria seeds like to trade with me? Or be willing to send a couple of green twigs that I could use as cuttings? I'll gladly pay postage. I'll accept any colour - not fussy. Wrapped green cuttings will travel well & can be revived easily once I receive them. If willing, please contact me through a private message. Thank you!

I've read about plumeria & drooled over photos & stories of its heavenly fragrance but never seen any offered here. Perhaps they can be found at the pricey nurseries but I can't afford to buy there so figure it's not worth torturing myself by looking around at what they sell (a medium-small planter of bamboo for over $100, for example - neighbours bought theirs from there).

I can overwinter plumeria here in a cool greenhouse & a friend is building me one this year. I've been collecting old glass from thrown away windows so hope to expand my plants this year! Razz

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Plumeria Reply with quote

Hi Isomorphix! Do you have any Succulents to trade for Plumeria?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Plumeria Reply with quote

Mocropot, I'm sorry but I can't trade plants unless they're absolutely no soil attached. So plants that are only rooted in perlite "should" be okay but I'd need to double check. Canada has strict import laws about this & I don't doubt most other countries have such laws in place too. It's to prevent harmful insect pests or disease organisms getting into Canada & causing serious problems. For example, I live near the US border & if I wanted to travel to the States, even for a few hours, I can't take any oranges I may have (to eat on the way) into the US. Oranges from the US can come into Canada but then we don't have citrus crops up here - too cold.

I had checked before because there's a research/nursery place in the US that offers very unusual plants for propagation with no patents on the plants. I checked with the ministry of agriculture here & while the person was sympathetic with me & loved plants too, he said it's very strict. Parcels coming in are checked & I could face heavy fines for not obeying the laws.

I really don't have a very exciting group of succulents either - just some of the basics like a few different Crassula, a couple of sedums, & my Dancing Bones (which looks like one of my cats tried chewing recently!! Evil or Very Mad ) Most are those that are readily available in garden shops & even grocery stores. If you're still interested let me know & I'll further check about the regulations of sending them to where you live.

BTW, what country are you in?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Plumeria Reply with quote

Isomorphix, based on your explanation that is very strict. I think the only way is bare roots plants with out any soil. I mostly interesting in Caudiciform Succulents and hoya. I am in USA, Florida. I have a condo here and I meet a lot of people from Canada. They are renting my condo for vacation time
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Plumeria Reply with quote

Plumeria is one of my favourites. I only have one plant which is about 2 foot high now, never had any flowers yet. I most recently acquired another four large cuttings but the man who gave them to me said I have to leave them dry for at least a month before potting them. They are very thick cuttings. Should I leave them that long and when do I water them after I pot them? Thanks for any help.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Plumeria Reply with quote

The reason he told you not to plant it for a month, was to let the cut area "heel" over, much in the same way that you would let a cactus or succulent cutting "heel" over, before planting. After planting, keep the soil moist but not wet.
You can take cuttings off of your larger, leggier plants, to produce new plants and promote branching on your larger plant, as well. I'm not positive, but on larger plants, the flowers will form on branches 2 years old and older.
Here, in S.E. Louisiana, some people actually unpot their plumerias after they go dormant, and store them in a cool dark, dry area until spring and then replant them. For those of you having problems getting your plants to flower, try this and see if it helps any.

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