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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:36 am    Post subject: Nothofagus procera Reply with quote

Where can I find the seeds of this tree? I did 'google' it a bit, but found only one , and rather expensive adress. Since I need several thousend trees, is there anybody that can give some better idea?
It seems that in some countries of South America one can buy it as we do our nuts - at the market. Would anybody consider doing me a favor to buy it for me(at my cost, of course), or give information how I could do it myself...?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:13 am    Post subject: Re: Nothofagus procera Reply with quote

hmh. I forgot to tell that the local name of this tree is 'Rauli'. Also 'Nothofagus nervosa' is used...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:16 am    Post subject: Re: Nothofagus procera Reply with quote

Try this guy, he does not list N.procera, but he does list a lot of different Nothofagus species and says to enquire for other Chilean species.

Incidentally I grow some Rauli in Ireland.

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PS sorry, I forgot the link... it was to chileflora.com


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:43 am    Post subject: Re: Nothofagus procera Reply with quote

hello

you can find VERY VERY VERY VERY interesting chilean seeds in this website

www.chileflora.com

Raulí

www.chileflora.com/Flo...EH0147.htm

tell to Michail that I give you the link... jeje Not Worthy
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:50 am    Post subject: Re: Nothofagus procera Reply with quote

Richard and Spiniflores, thank you very, very much! It's been a while since I visited 'Plants World', and in meanwhile I bought the ground to be planted (10ha). So, I'll see further with rauli...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:10 am    Post subject: Re: Nothofagus procera Reply with quote

RichardF42 wrote:
Try this guy, he does not list N.procera, but he does list a lot of different Nothofagus species and says to enquire for other Chilean species.

Incidentally I grow some Rauli in Ireland.

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PS sorry, I forgot the link... it was to chileflora.com


Richard, did it realy grow as fast as they claim?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:13 am    Post subject: Re: Nothofagus procera Reply with quote

Hi Zmijobor,

My trees are 15yrs old and about 9 metres high, yes they certainly shoot up, but are rather narrow in their habit. I find them a beautiful tree, but the timber is not very good I think. It is rather light and brittle. However, I haven't seen heartwood yet, that may be harder.

The climate here is very mild and generally trees grow too quickly to make great timber. Also the foliage of Rauli can burn with frost, luckily we get few frosts, but the hardest ones are often 'radiation' frosts in mid April. I have seen these kill all the leaves on Rauli up to a 2.5 metre 'tide-line'.

Good luck with your trees.

Richard
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:02 am    Post subject: Re: Nothofagus procera Reply with quote

and in spite of it, the trees were 9 m in 15 years?
What would you have had if there was no frostdam.! Mr. Green
What is it for a zone by you? 6? 7? a, b,?
My trees would grow in Serbia.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:07 am    Post subject: Re: Nothofagus procera Reply with quote

Hard to say what our USDA zone would be, but it is a cool maritime climate with the absolute min. temp going to maybe -5, this last winter to -2 and only for periods of less than 24hrs. Go to www.met.ie/climate/corkairport.asp for weather records from nearest airport (65km away).

I would say that its very different climate to yours.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Nothofagus procera Reply with quote

Crying or Very sad I think that it won't go...Thanks, anyway!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Nothofagus procera Reply with quote

Hi zmijobor and all,
I thought that someone may be interested in a follow up to the Nothofagus procera story. This last winter (2009-10) in Ireland was the worst for nearly sixty years with minimum temperatures 5-8 degrees C below normal. We had -12 here with maybe more in frost pockets. Then came a protracted Spring with frost overnight and warm days for six weeks or so. This combination killed many plants. Many seemed to survive the very low temps. then die, as a result of the cycling temps, in March and April.
All my Nothofagus procera SURVIVED totally unharmed. It just goes to show what a complex subject plant hardiness is.

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